You must post 2 times before Monday, November 21st. Your first post should be completed by Friday, November 18th. It should be in response to one of the prompts below. The second time you post, it must be in response to or in reaction to the post of another student.- Where do you see connections between what we've learned about Freud's ideas concerning the unconscious and our dreams and the way Gabriel Garcia Marquez has chosen to write this text? Give specific examples including passages from the text. Cite page numbers.
- On page 68, Jose Arcadio Buendia says that "Love is a disease." What evidence is there of the destructive powers of love and lust in this novel in terms of how an individual can be affected and the impact it can have on relationships?
- Find a piece of art which you feel represents a passage or portion of the text. (You will need to paste the link to the artwork in your blog post so that other students may view it.) Explain your choice. Support your explanation by comparing the passage from the text with details from the artwork. Cite page numbers. Do not simply Google "One Hundred Years of Solitude art", do a little more of an in-depth searching on your own.
- Identify elements of the story that you find particularly confusing, interesting, or worthy of discussion. Pose your own questions. Include portions of the text that you feel contribute to your questions/your point. Cite page numbers.
You must post 2 times before Monday, November 21st. Your first post should be completed by Friday, November 18th. It should be in response to one of the prompts below. The second time you post, it must be in response to or in reaction to the post of another student.
- Where do you see connections between what we've learned about Freud's ideas concerning the unconscious and our dreams and the way Gabriel Garcia Marquez has chosen to write this text? Give specific examples including passages from the text. Cite page numbers.
- On page 68, Jose Arcadio Buendia says that "Love is a disease." What evidence is there of the destructive powers of love and lust in this novel in terms of how an individual can be affected and the impact it can have on relationships?
- Find a piece of art which you feel represents a passage or portion of the text. (You will need to paste the link to the artwork in your blog post so that other students may view it.) Explain your choice. Support your explanation by comparing the passage from the text with details from the artwork. Cite page numbers. Do not simply Google "One Hundred Years of Solitude art", do a little more of an in-depth searching on your own.
- Identify elements of the story that you find particularly confusing, interesting, or worthy of discussion. Pose your own questions. Include portions of the text that you feel contribute to your questions/your point. Cite page numbers.
Love comes up a lot in this novel. From what we have read so far, it is mostly destructive. Jose Arcadio falls in love with Pilar which causes him to run away from his family with the gypsies. If something causes you to run away from everything you have ever known, it would definitely be considered destructive. This situation changed who Jose Arcadio was. He became distant from his family to the point where he was fine running away. His mother was very worried about him, causing the destructive relationship between Jose Arcadio and Pilar to affect his mother in a lasting way also.
ReplyDeleteAureliano also has some drama with love in the book. Aureliano is most of the time busy in the lab working on new inventions. Although, one time he goes to a store one night. A woman is selling her granddaughter as pretty much a sex slave for money at the store. Aureliano puts his money in the box and goes in the room that the young girl is. However, they end up not doing anything. After this event Aureliano ends up not talking to girls because this had scarred him so much. He was so embarrassed after this too. This shows how destructive just a little thing can be on how someone views love and acts upon love.
ReplyDeleteJose Arcadio thinks he falls in love with Pilar the servant, when in reality he is in a very lustful relationship with her. He sneaks out late at night just to see her and have a very intimate and secret relationship. This leads to many bad things that ends up with them having a baby together. Jose can't handle all the pressure and runs away. Before he runs away he lets lust get him again with a gypsy lady. This shows that lust is a very powerful thing. There's a huge difference between love and lust. Jose did say, "love is like a disease" but in reality I would say lust is much more like a disease. Once it has you, it doesn't let go, and in this case leads to two very unfortunate events.
ReplyDeleteThe main element that confuses me in the book is how everyone has the same name because I never know which one the book is referring to. I feel if the author wanted to make the names similar then she should have made them rhyme or use a different technique. Another confusing portion was where Rebecca came to Macondo and she carried her parents bones with her throughout her travels. (Page 40)
ReplyDeleteLove plays a big part in this chapter in many ways. For instance, Jose Arcadio's relationship with Pilar, he runs away to marry the woman he loves, and his mother loves him so much that she leaves the rest of their family to find him. Jose Arcadio Buendia says that love is a disease and this chapter shows it with all of the different forms of love and how love between certain characters affects other characters.
ReplyDelete"Love is destructive" is a great quote for JAB. At the start of this book when the gypsies come to the town of Maconda, JAB becomes obsessed with scientific findings. He ignores everyone, including his family, in favor of inventing new things such as a weapon out of a magnifying glass. JAB's relationship with his family becomes very distant until his wife tells him that he needs to look at his children who are running wild like donkeys. JAB's love for science and invention almost destroys his family.
ReplyDeleteOne topic I think is worthy of discussion is the fact that there are some aspects of the story which physically do not make sense but for some reason are realities in the story. Such as when the disease of insomnia and amnesia gets passed around the town as if it were a cold or the measles. Also after JAB kills prudencio aguilar (butchered spelling but its all good) he sees his ghost and this is just considered normal. I guess I Just get confused as to what parts of the story are real or not.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Courtney. However, I understand why the author did such a thing. Many families pass names down like no one's business including mine. My family out in Boston has two Brians, two Steves, two Kevins, two Dans, and more that I can't think of right now. Yes, it is confusing but, it is understandable.
ReplyDeleteJose Arcadio's relationship he develops with Pilar is an example of love being a disease. When their relationship begins he ignores his father and brother and their alchemy work. He can't sleep at night so he goes to her each night. His brother becomes the same way and ignores the alchemy work as well. Their mother becomes worried and believes them to have worms, so she gives them a medicine to rid them of the worms. This is an example of love being a disease because it spreads from Jose Arcadio to his brother and consumes both their lives.
ReplyDeleteThis book seriously has like three sex scenes in like 2 pages, this is pretty much "Hostile" all over again. JAB definitely has immense amounts of swag inventing new guns and all but who are we lying to? JAB is swagger-jacking his family HAM by never paying attention to them. His kids by the way, going totoallllllllly insane. Ask me? Give it 3 chapters and they'll be slingin crack
ReplyDeleteLove proves to be destructive through Rebeca's relationship with Pietro Crespi. First of all Rebeca falls in love with him and then he has to leave shortly afterward. The absence of Pietro drives Rebeca into a deep depression. This unreturned love for Pietro is a very destructive force in Rebeca's life, and leads her to start eating dirt again. Rebeca's love for Pietro also brings conflict between her and Amaranta. Because Amaranta also falls in love with Pietro, this strains the relationship between her and Rebeca. Amaranta even goes as far as to say that she would kill either Rebeca or herself before she let Rebeca marry Pietro.
ReplyDeleteOne can see evidence that love is destructive by looking at JAB and Ursula's relationship. They were cousins and loved each other so much that they got married but Ursula's mom convinced her to wear chastity pants. Because of that Prudencio Aguilar made fun of him and JAB responded by killing him. Their love eventually lead to a man's death.
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of situations in this book that shows that love is destructive. One of the main things that sticks out to me is when Jose Arcadio has a relationship with Pilar. He thinks he is in love with her at first but once he finds out she is pregnant with his child he realizes he can't handle the pressure which proves he wasn't really as in love with her as he thought. The realization that she was pregnant caused him to distance himself from her and he realizes he can't handle it, so he goes out to the circus thing and meets the gypsy girl. Then he ends up running away with her. Which then causes his mother to run after him without even telling anyone she's leaving, even though it meant leaving her family, including her baby girl behind. I think I would consider that to be pretty destructive.
ReplyDeleteTJ nice profile picture, but there is a lot that isn't very real such as no government and no one dying. These are all unreal aspects of life. I don't think you understand this book at all you idiot. I mean you are as educated as Jose Buendia who thought the ice was a big diamond. On the point though I think this is a fantasy land therefore there are just certain realities that don't pertain to real life now.
ReplyDeleteI think that government is a topic worth discussing because i don't think that a community that has been doing fine on their own needs a government. The community hasn't had any problems in the past so there really is no reason for the government to be created.
ReplyDeleteHI ERYONE!!!
ReplyDeleteThere is evidence of love in the story when JoseArcadio sneaks out to see Pilar. He and Pilar have a relationship that is very secretive and quiet but at the same time very passionate. they have a child and this isn't necessarily a good thing because Jose Arcadio cannot handle the responsibility that comes with having a baby. This just goes to show that love can have a huge imapact on someone. Jose Arcadio clearly is not ready to be starting a family but lust brings him in and he is forced to do something that he is not ready for.
ReplyDeleteThe thing that confuses me most about this book is how everyone has similiar names. I read a paragraph thinkin he is talking about one character and then realize he is talking about a completely different character. So then i have to go back and re-read that whole paragraph. Also, the way he jumps back and forth in time makes this book confusing. Let's see some chronological order Gabriel.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Courtney and Sarah. The story is really hard to follow when characters have the same name, and is also hard to understand when all of the names are hard to pronounce. I think its harder to connect a character with their name when you cant even pronounce their name, this confuses me when I'm trying to figure out who's doing what. However I have found it helpful to reference the family tree in the front of the book.
ReplyDeleteMorgan said that "Jose Arcadio falls in love with Pilar which causes him to run away from his family with the gypsies." On page 33 and 34 it says that Jose Arcadio met and slept with a gypsie girl and the following day left Moncado with her and the gypsies. I do not think that Jose Arcadio was running away from Pilar and the baby, but running towards love with the gypsie girl.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with Courtney. This book makes reading and understanding who is doing what extremely complicated, however the display of family tradition of names being passed down is of great importance. :)
ReplyDeleteI agree with Claire. I think their relationship is extremely destructive considering it led to Prudencio Aguilar's death. And the fact that she didn't even tell him when she was running off to try and find her son, leaving him alone with their baby. If I was him I would probably be a pretty upset.
ReplyDeleteI agree with What Jessica said. I think the government being established in Maconda is going to start to wear away the peacefulness. It will create tension between the political parties that will come out and people will become angry when forced to do specific things. Like how Don Apolinar Moscote wanted everyone to paint their houses blue.
ReplyDeleteTo me the most confusing part of the story is all the name being similar or the same. When I read the book I have to really pay attention to make sure I know what person it is talking about. I think the names should all be changed.
ReplyDeleteThe governments basically just going ham now in this chapter. These people die then get bored of it and then come back to life like its no big deal. The government is totally ruining the peoples lives and they need to get out of this hizzzzouse. Kna-mean?
ReplyDeleteDale, its time to give this website a new back ground, the book things kinda turning me off, I say we go with some roses or really any type of endangered animal that raises our sympathy awareness
ReplyDeleteI agree with Courtney Copley! If they were all civilized people they would nae their children differently. The book is just that much more difficult to follow because you are double thinking which person they are really speaking about.However, it is much like today where the father names his son his own name.
ReplyDeletePENSE que FUE INTERESANTE COMO EL PUEBLO TIENE QUE CONSEGUIR TODA TECNOLOGIA ALLI NUEVA, la CIENCIA, Y la INVENCION DE UN RAMO DE gitanos NOMADAS. Yo TAMBIEN PIENSO que SU INTERESANTE ESE PINCHAZO PIENSA que PUEDE HACER UN ARMA DE UN LUPA Y VENDERLO AL GOBIERNO. QUE BOBO. APOSTE EL DON TIENE AUN SU GRADO 10
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jessica, I think the government isn't needed because there hasn't been problems in the society before. I also get that the name thing is a tradition but its really confusing.
ReplyDeleteI honestly agree with myself on basically like everything!!! so cheyyyyaaaa, Dale lets step it up, the least you could do is bring us some saltine crackers, maybe even a juice box, this is straight bologna on a stick and Im tired of it homes, we still got 6 minutes left so im doing this, so yeah I don't know, this book is in no way excited, trippy, laughy or intense, so we should pry not but pry go with somethin with a little more zing, knam-sayin?
ReplyDeleteI believe that Macondo should have a government. It is true that nothing wrong occurs and that no problems arise. However, when something wrong occurs who is going to fix the problem? Its is much like our government today, we probably would be a greater disaster without it.
ReplyDeleteJacob i think that you are right i mean the names suck to try to keep track of. I'll be reading and think im reading about one character when reality checks in and its a different character. It really flusters me when this happens because then i get off track and all hell breaks loose.
ReplyDeleteHI BEN DOVER
ReplyDeleteEven though it seems like it doesn't make sense, I agree with John's first post. This dude needs to spend some more time with his family instead of inventing stuff. He is going to lose them or something
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ReplyDeleteResponding to the first prompt: Gabriel G. Marques connects his ideas to Freud's idea by creating some kind of imaginary city where everybody gets along and are happy together with no rules or regulations to follow. Everybody is independent in their own way and they can do whatever they want, just as long as it was cool with everyone else in the city. There are a lot of weird relationships going on between the characters in the book too. I think the author does this because Freud based many of his psychological theories on women, upper class women to be exact. Freud would spend his days observing rich women on how they act and how they respond to things. That is why people didn't really like his ideas because they thought it was sexist or bias (Ferguson). Gabriel G. Marquez made the main character Jose Arcadio Buendia a dreamer type people. His personality is idealistic and imaginative. JAB would always be fascinated by all the things that gypsies brought and thought about all the different kinds of things that he can do with their cool things (Chapter 1). Of course, they don't work out in the end because he couldn't make it happen in reality, but in his mind it was possible. There are a lot more connections between Freud and Marquez, but that's all I can think of for now.
ReplyDeleteWell.... first of all.. i find this book confusing because there are way too many names. I am terrible with reading books like this because i can't keep up with everything. It also confuses me how it switched around with the stories. Also there are way too many words!
ReplyDeleteWhat i am wondering is what is the main theme of this story.
I agree with Jenna's post. New characters keep popping up in each chapter as the book progresses, and it's hard to keep up and remember who is who in the book, but I'm pretty sure that each character that gets introduced will have a significant role in the book later on in the book. The author is just trying to set the scene for the readers in the beginning so that they can understand what each character is like and how they are all related to each other.
ReplyDeleteIt confused me, also, when the author just keeps changing the story that he is trying to tell. It is very hard to follow that way because it's like this happens, then this happens, and then I'm like okay, that's cool.
There is a lot of words in this book too... a third of it being the names of people, of course. The author needs to break the paragraphs down a little more, instead of having huge blocks of paragraphs that seems to be endless. He needs to break it down and simplify it to the point, instead of expanding it so much into detail. (Even though the point of a book is to be as detailed as possible to make it interesting and to make the reader visualize what's happening in their head, it's still too long.) It would be more interesting if there was more dialog in the book too, instead of just one line of dialog every other paragraph.
This one was due friday but, I agree with the second bullet; love is a disease. It shows this throughout the book. For example, when Jose Arcadio fell in love with Pilar, all he could think about was her, he couldn't eat or sleep. His family began to wonder what was wrong with him, and it affected his relationship with them. Another example is when JA ran off with that gypsy girl. His mom randomly left the house and searched for him. This also had an affect on his family and Pilar.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what Jessica said, I don't think Macondo needs a government. They already kind of have an established one, with JAB as their leader. I think that what they are doing now is fine, everyone is happy and content, no one has died, and they are able to work through their problems (like insomnia) together. A government would just disrupt the peace and flow of things.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Daniela when they say that Macondo needs a government. I'm really surprised that nothing worse has happened, like crimes or anything, without it. Yeah, JAB is the leader, but without punishments or anything there really isn't an incentive to not do bad things except people's own morals.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Morgan and Daniela. I think that Macondo should have a government. I am suprised too that nothing bad has happenend yet. I feel like that if something were to go wrong they really would not know how to handle it either. The government does not always have to tell the people to do this or to do that, the governemnt can help to make Macondo better for everyone.
ReplyDeleteThis book makes way more sense when I actually pay attention when I am reading. I think the government thing is debatable. But i am way too lazy to explain why!
ReplyDeleteOk this one was for Friday because I was out of town. In this book there are many character that you have to follow. There are many confusing names and also hard to pronounce. I hate that the fathers name is so similar to his sons. It's confusing because when they are talking about the father, I think they are talking about the son. And they other way around. The book is confusing in the beginning because it jumps back and forth but now reading into it, it is easier to know that is going on.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Teresa. A country needs a government not only to provide rules but have a stable environment. Without a government, there could be chaos and everyone would do whatever they wanted. If something went wrong in Macondo, they would not know how to respond. Just like she said, the government helps the people live in a respectful society and doesn't mean that it rules everyone under it.
ReplyDeleteNot really specifically at anyone post but more as a response to the whole government discussion. We definitely need some form of governing body, or things would be just chaotic. However, this book has a lot of utopian ideas that imply to government not really needing to be involved in a lot of affairs.
ReplyDeleteI can see why Jose Aracadio Buendia says love is a disease. For an example when both Rebecca and Armanata fall in love with Pietro it causes them to hate each other. I see this even more in our society today with girls fighting over a guy more and more. It is sad to see how our society has been affected by this so called "disease" named love.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Heather. It is confusing with all the names being the same. I also fond it hard to follow at times because I wasn't sure who was doing what and why that person was doing that action. But now that I know I have to slow down and read more carefully I am starting to understand what is going on. (Also I was out of town as well. That is why I am doing it now.)
ReplyDeleteJose Arcadio and Pilar's relationship show love in a destructive way. He thinks he is in love with her at first but he moved on quickly to the gypsy girl and was able to leave her and his whole family without any heartache. Then he ends up running away with her.It is also destructive because him running away caused his mom to run away looking for him and leaving the family behind.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jessica that it doesn't need a government. There have been no deaths and everyone is happy and content with the way things are. So there's no point on changing anything when things are just fine the was they are.
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